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. >> all the law enforcement professionals are hoping for a host of reasons that the suspect survives because we have many questions. those questions need to be answered. >> in this photograph taken right after his arrest, the college student's neck area appears covered with blood. the younger brother'ses cape was busted when a man found him hiding in his backyard boat. thermal images shows a white image of an object projecting heat. in another still photo you can make out the suspect's feet in black lying in the boat. a robotic arm moves in and lifts the tarp. . the police chief tells wolf blitzer about those moments. >> we began negotiations that way. over a long period of time, we were able to finally get him to surrender. >> agents yell at him to give himself up. police say there was an exchange of gunfire. authorities said his injuries came during thursday night's shootout when his brother was killed. agents spent the day combing over every inch of the boat collecting blood, hair and more to build a case against the suspected boston marathon bomber. and today prosecutors are cont
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the front end has to be law enforcement going to talk to people. in community centers, making people understand that the security services they see here are not like the security services they saw at home. the second, and this may sound radical, i would be considering calling the mother of those terrorists. there's four grieving parents in boston who lost children. there's a fifth in chechnya. i'm not saying this because it represents a velvet glove. it's a steel fist. to tell anybody who wants to do this, we're going to bring everybody into the tent, including the mother who lost one kid and might lose another, who were terrorists, and we're going to tell them we all grieve together as a family. >> jessica, what would you ask this young man? what would be the first question you'd ask? >> of course, i'd want to know all about how he was radicalized. i'd want to know all about his life story. but to me what's very important is to make sure that his story gets out there because i think kids sometimes romanticize the life. and if we can get former m m
the front end has to be law enforcement going to talk to people. in community centers, making people understand that the security services they see here are not like the security services they saw at home. the second, and this may sound radical, i would be considering calling the mother of those terrorists. there's four grieving parents in boston who lost children. there's a fifth in chechnya. i'm not saying this because it represents a velvet glove. it's a steel fist. to tell anybody who wants...
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and other law enforcement sourcing. i don't know that we can definitively say right now that he wasn't on a list or was not being monitored. this is still a very fluid situation that's developing. we're doing the best job we can reporting. i know other outlets are. i think it's really important to in some ways let this play out, and especially now that the younger brother is in custody. there is not an active threat anymore. we don't have all the answers yet. here at the globe and other news outlets, we're going to try to get the answers. >> all right. thank you so much for joining us. >> of course. thanks for having me. >> thank you. up next on "the five," the latest on the victims, four are dead, over 170 injured and one police officer is fighting for his life. an update on them when we come back @@ >>> so we want to update you now on the only people that matter, the survivors of the boston terrorist attack, as well as the latest on the funeral plans for the four victims. eight-year-old martin richard, 29-year-old c
and other law enforcement sourcing. i don't know that we can definitively say right now that he wasn't on a list or was not being monitored. this is still a very fluid situation that's developing. we're doing the best job we can reporting. i know other outlets are. i think it's really important to in some ways let this play out, and especially now that the younger brother is in custody. there is not an active threat anymore. we don't have all the answers yet. here at the globe and other news...
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he just wanted to be in law enforcement. it was not about the pay or the benefits or the retirement, but it was about law enforcement is supposed to be all about and to help people. and he was a master at helping people. i think that m.i.t. lost someone that truly cared about them. i think that we lost someone who we learned more from him, than with he ever learned from us. >> reporter: at 26 years old. that says a lot. >> yes, and you know, i have been a cop for almost 40 years and i was with the state police and with m.i.t. for 11 and you see a lot. you really do, anever saw anything like this. it just, everything about it is just wrong. the killing of him was so senseless. the loss of a person of his quality and his age, and the fact that it happened on a college campus, and everything about this was wrong. nothing fits. just crazy. >> and don, tonight, also, we talked to three m.i.t. students who are also emts and they were close friends of collier and they came with flowers and messages for his family, and interestingly
he just wanted to be in law enforcement. it was not about the pay or the benefits or the retirement, but it was about law enforcement is supposed to be all about and to help people. and he was a master at helping people. i think that m.i.t. lost someone that truly cared about them. i think that we lost someone who we learned more from him, than with he ever learned from us. >> reporter: at 26 years old. that says a lot. >> yes, and you know, i have been a cop for almost 40 years and...
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so if the law does allow you to not ask those miranda rights, you can proceed. but you cannot make up the rules as you go. if you do not follow the law, if you do deviate from it, the things you do could cost the case ultimately. any confession you could get could be thrown out or dismissed or anything like that. you want to make sure that you do follow the law even though you may feel otherwise, we have to be careful. >> all right. an experienced interrogator, thank you so much for joining us. appreciate it. >> thank you. >> we have some good news for all that flooding out west. we'll tell you what it is, your weather forecast coming up. hey! did you know that honey nut cheerios has oats that can help lower cholesterol? and it tastes good? sure does! wow. it's the honey, it makes it taste so... well, would you look at the time... what's the rush? be happy. be healthy. how old is the oldest person you've known? we gave people a sticker and had them show us. we learned a lot of us have known someone who's lived well into their 90s. and that's a great thing. but e
so if the law does allow you to not ask those miranda rights, you can proceed. but you cannot make up the rules as you go. if you do not follow the law, if you do deviate from it, the things you do could cost the case ultimately. any confession you could get could be thrown out or dismissed or anything like that. you want to make sure that you do follow the law even though you may feel otherwise, we have to be careful. >> all right. an experienced interrogator, thank you so much for...
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it resulted in last wednesday being signed into law in arkansas by the governor,andy's law that provides for enhanced civil penaltyings for a terrorist act. 117 legislators voted for it and one did not and she said she pressed the wrong button and it is near unanimous what it. >> daruous i can tell you from having been there if you get that many votes on anything it is incredible. how did it make you feel getting the law pass named after your son. >> the fact that it was named after him said a lot. i am grateful to the arkansas legislature, but it is just a beginning. the state knows what it was, but our federal government doesn't. i watching the night before last, tyrone woods father was on one of the shopes and he said i am waiting for an answer, 7 months later, the ft. hood people are waiting three and half years later and i am still waiting for answers four years later issue. the president spoke in his speech about the victims have a right for answers. well, i would like mine. >> you know, i think your story is one of those that is so amazing. because there was a time in the f.b.i. a
it resulted in last wednesday being signed into law in arkansas by the governor,andy's law that provides for enhanced civil penaltyings for a terrorist act. 117 legislators voted for it and one did not and she said she pressed the wrong button and it is near unanimous what it. >> daruous i can tell you from having been there if you get that many votes on anything it is incredible. how did it make you feel getting the law pass named after your son. >> the fact that it was named after...
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it resulted in last wednesday being signed into law in arkansas by the governor,andy's law that provides for enhanced civil penaltyings for a terrorist act. 117 legislators voted for it and one did not and she said she pressed the wrong button and it is near unanimous what it. >> daruous i can tell you from having been there if you get that many votes on anything it is incredible. how did it make you feel getting the law pass named after your son. >> the fact that it was named after him said a lot. i am grateful to the arkansas legislature, but it is just a beginning. the state knows what it was, but our federal government doesn't. i watching the night before last, tyrone woods father was on one of the shopes and he said i am waiting for an answer, 7 months later, the ft. hood people are waiting three and half years later and i am still waiting for answers four years later issue. the president spoke in his speech about the victims have a right for answers. well, i would like mine. >> you know, i think your story is one of those that is so amazing. because there was a time in the f.b.i. a
it resulted in last wednesday being signed into law in arkansas by the governor,andy's law that provides for enhanced civil penaltyings for a terrorist act. 117 legislators voted for it and one did not and she said she pressed the wrong button and it is near unanimous what it. >> daruous i can tell you from having been there if you get that many votes on anything it is incredible. how did it make you feel getting the law pass named after your son. >> the fact that it was named after...
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of the people who knew them were shocked to find out that they're the suspects in the bombings but law enforcement officials are saying that they had indications from the russian government to look into the identity of the older brother to milan they did in fact bring him in for questioning back in two thousand and eleven to try to establish any possible links to extremist groups at this time they released the older brother and of course now following the days after the bombings at the finishing line of the boston marathon law enforcement yet again tried to establish any possible links the brothers might have had with extremist groups after monday's bombings late on thursday afternoon the f.b.i. finally released photos of the two suspects the ended up coming out of their. fighting killing an mit officer hijacking a car releasing the person to whom that car belonged and got in a car chase with police the police officer said that the two brothers were throwing explosive devices out of their car and shooting over a dozen police officers were wounded as a result eventually the older brothe
of the people who knew them were shocked to find out that they're the suspects in the bombings but law enforcement officials are saying that they had indications from the russian government to look into the identity of the older brother to milan they did in fact bring him in for questioning back in two thousand and eleven to try to establish any possible links to extremist groups at this time they released the older brother and of course now following the days after the bombings at the...
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and of course now following the days after the bombings at the finishing line of the boston marathon law enforcement yet again tried to establish any possible links the brothers might have had with extremist groups after monday's bombings late on thursday afternoon the f.b.i. finally released photos of the two suspects the ended up coming out of their. fighting killing an mit officer hijacking a car releasing the person to whom that car belonged and got in a car chase with police the police officers said that the two brothers were throwing explosive devices out of their car and shooting over a dozen police officers were wounded as a result eventually the older brother twenty six year old to milan got out of the car to continue the shootout with the police officers the younger brother stayed in the car ended up running over his older brother getting a win the car which he eventually abandoned and was able to get away on foot in the meantime police officers captured to marilyn and took him to this hospital in boston suffering multiple injuries this is where he died shortly after one thirty
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enforcement task forces throughout the country, state law enforcement and local law enforcement. the question becomes, how can we strengthen these relationships beyond just a relationship that's taken place historically. >> really quick here, 30 seconds, because there is a great deal of ignorance in this country when it comes to the islamic faith. for folks who don't understand the difference between islam and radical islam, give us the 101 here? >> well, islam represents peace, will be islam condemns killing people. you know, we often hear the words "jihad," but the jihad reference largely references an internal wrestling with good and evil, within one's self. not what we're seeing and not some of the crazies that are purporting to represent the faith. no different than having the ku klux klan claiming to represent christianity. >> appreciate your time, sir. >> an honor, sir. >>> as the people in boston mourn the dead and tend to the wou wou wounded, they are also starting the process of moving on. i'll talk about what they're doing now, how they're going to go about doing that.
enforcement task forces throughout the country, state law enforcement and local law enforcement. the question becomes, how can we strengthen these relationships beyond just a relationship that's taken place historically. >> really quick here, 30 seconds, because there is a great deal of ignorance in this country when it comes to the islamic faith. for folks who don't understand the difference between islam and radical islam, give us the 101 here? >> well, islam represents peace,...
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of course, that doesn't help an ngo if it runs afoul of laws on foreign money. i think the main thing would be what does the organization itself want? the democracy and human rights activist in egypt was company on this a year or two back and said, ask of the organization. it's probably the best judge of its own risks and what it needs. so that's all i can suggest on that. >> i'm with the investigative project on terrorism to our organization tracks domestic islamists that are filled with the rugged such as the council -- islamic society of north america and we've been able to see if there's been a close correlation between these groups and lobbying the obama administration. it come out and support the brotherhood in egypt and elsewhere in the middle east. do you think that they are having an impact on how the administration deals with indigenous christians in the muslim world? >> quick canvass. we would have no idea on, you know, what are the dynamics, just observe the phenomenon, the current administration, with the bush administration as far as are doing with
of course, that doesn't help an ngo if it runs afoul of laws on foreign money. i think the main thing would be what does the organization itself want? the democracy and human rights activist in egypt was company on this a year or two back and said, ask of the organization. it's probably the best judge of its own risks and what it needs. so that's all i can suggest on that. >> i'm with the investigative project on terrorism to our organization tracks domestic islamists that are filled with...
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with so many law enforcement agencies on this. the shootout in watertown. >> reporter: right. >> judge jeanine: dhokhar is bleeding and one block behind the perimeter. wouldn't there be a trail to his location whether he is one block beyond or not? >> there was some what of a trail to his location and that is how he was spotted. the homeowner came out to smoke a cigarette and notice that there was a door to the shed open and there was bloody clothes and blood stains going into the boat where the shrink wrap over the top of the boat was disturbed. the individual picked up the shrink wrap and saw him and backed off and called 911. why there wasn't a larger or longer blood trail i can't answer that. >> judge jeanine: thank goodness for the thermal sensorring from the helicopters as well as a very alert woman who notice or the man who noticed that there was some blood around the boat. mike tobin, thanks so much. and now to catherine herridge, fox news chief intelligence correspondent. catherine, what do we know about the suspect's ter
with so many law enforcement agencies on this. the shootout in watertown. >> reporter: right. >> judge jeanine: dhokhar is bleeding and one block behind the perimeter. wouldn't there be a trail to his location whether he is one block beyond or not? >> there was some what of a trail to his location and that is how he was spotted. the homeowner came out to smoke a cigarette and notice that there was a door to the shed open and there was bloody clothes and blood stains going into...
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as a law enforcement tool. i worried all along that americans would start to say as a result of events like this that they are real americans and other americans. that kind of mentality, if we ever get it, will accelerate cases of radicalization. kids are going to say, i took the oath, but i'm still not accepted. >> to what extent is one of the dangers here? one can overread too much these maybe two cases of a bad situation. to what extent might the assimilation might have broken down or not functioning as well as it it used to. we prided ourselves on that in europe minority communities were excluded or marginalized but not in the united states. but does this story tell us that maybe we should be paying attention to that. >> compared to what? the assimilation model in the united states works great compared to france or germany or great britain. if you look back in history, the irish, the jews, all kinds of communities who came to the country faced similar kinds of problems. and by the way, each of them had mome
as a law enforcement tool. i worried all along that americans would start to say as a result of events like this that they are real americans and other americans. that kind of mentality, if we ever get it, will accelerate cases of radicalization. kids are going to say, i took the oath, but i'm still not accepted. >> to what extent is one of the dangers here? one can overread too much these maybe two cases of a bad situation. to what extent might the assimilation might have broken down or...
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we have a government of laws and we have to proceed under the rule of law. i appreciate everything that has been set but there's no reason to believe when john made this very interesting statement that he was actually saying the department of justice -- >> will the gentleman yield? >> >> that's exactly the point of the line of questioning. there was an inference made. maybe i should have called mchugh directly but when that inference was made and we were going to have the attorney general testify here today, i think it's important that if there was coordination between d.o.d. and the justice department on how this case was going to move forward and how it was going to be handled, that it would be fair to ask the attorney general, in what exsity is that going on? he's answered those questions but i think the people standing in the back of the room deserve to at least try to get to the bottom of it and if you don't have the answers to these questions, you done have the answers to these questions. and if it's mr importantly in d. -- more appropriately in d.o.d.
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-- but hopes the young man will soon be able to answer the question of why >> i and i think all the law enforcement professionals are hoping for a host of reasons that the suspect survives because we have a million questions. those questions need to be answered. a justice dept source says dzhokar will will face federal terrorism charges and may also face state murder charges -- adding that he could be charged before he leaves the hospital. in boston i'm stacey cohan reporting. >> federal agents confirm that the f-b-i interviewed the older brother, tamerlan tsarnaev in 2011, after being tipped off by a foreign government. the suspect identified himself as ethnic chechen from southern russia and officials there believed tamerlan was going to travel to the country's region to join unspecified underground groups. the fbi says it interviewed tsarnaev and relatives, and did not find any domestic or foreign terrorism activity. meanwhile, tsarnaev's uncle says he had a falling-out with the 26-year-old over his increased commitment to islam. boston cardinal sean o'malley is dedicating mass today
-- but hopes the young man will soon be able to answer the question of why >> i and i think all the law enforcement professionals are hoping for a host of reasons that the suspect survives because we have a million questions. those questions need to be answered. a justice dept source says dzhokar will will face federal terrorism charges and may also face state murder charges -- adding that he could be charged before he leaves the hospital. in boston i'm stacey cohan reporting. >>...
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they want tsarnaev treated as an enemy combatant under the laws of war. lester? >> michael isakoff, thank you. for more on the government's attempts to find out what motivated these suspects, we're joined by nbc's chief foreign affairs correspondent, andrea mitchell. in our washington bureau, andrea? >> good evening, lester. intelligence officials, the fbi, a global search for what motivated tamerlan tsarnaev's terrorism. was it chechnyan nationalism, at the white house today, the president met again in the situation room with his national security advisers. he was briefed by the fbi director and top counterterrorism officials and others for 0 minutes. an official tells us afterwards that so far, there is no evidence of foreign involvement, but they're looking. they also say they are getting good cooperation now from russia, with whom as you know the u.s. has had very rocky relations over the last few years. russia's president vladimir putin spoke with president obama last night and the two leaders are discussing the importance of working more closely together on
they want tsarnaev treated as an enemy combatant under the laws of war. lester? >> michael isakoff, thank you. for more on the government's attempts to find out what motivated these suspects, we're joined by nbc's chief foreign affairs correspondent, andrea mitchell. in our washington bureau, andrea? >> good evening, lester. intelligence officials, the fbi, a global search for what motivated tamerlan tsarnaev's terrorism. was it chechnyan nationalism, at the white house today, the...
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with so many law enforcement agencies on this. the shootout in watertown. >> reporter: right. >> judge jeanine: dhokhar is bleeding and one block behind the perimeter. wouldn't there be a trail to his location whether he is one block beyond or not? >> there was some what of a trail to his location and that is how he was spotted. the homeowner came out to smoke a cigarette and notice that there was a door to the shed open and there was bloody clothes and blood stains going into the boat where the shrink wrap over the top of the boat was disturbed. the individual picked up the shrink wrap and saw him and backed off and called 911. why there wasn't a larger or longer blood trail i can't answer that. >> judge jeanine: thank goodness for the thermal sensorring from the helicopters as well as a very alert woman who notice or the man who noticed thae blood around the boat. mike tobin, thanks so much. and now to catherine herridge, fox news chief intelligence correspondent. catherine, what do we know about the suspect's terror connection?
with so many law enforcement agencies on this. the shootout in watertown. >> reporter: right. >> judge jeanine: dhokhar is bleeding and one block behind the perimeter. wouldn't there be a trail to his location whether he is one block beyond or not? >> there was some what of a trail to his location and that is how he was spotted. the homeowner came out to smoke a cigarette and notice that there was a door to the shed open and there was bloody clothes and blood stains going into...
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he can hold him under the same laws as those in guantanamo bay. is this the administration's way to walk middle ground. chris, thanks for talking to us. tell us what you know about the idea behind this, why did the obama administration decide to take this tact. >> chris: it is a tact they took ever since the underwear bomber. it's called the public safety exception. if there is a live investigation and possibility of a continued threat to public safety, prosecutors are able to talk to a criminal in this case a suspected terrorist about a possible, are there more bombs out there? are there other co-conspirer tos but it's limited in time and scope. once they try to get into a deeper interrogation, at that point as a criminal as opposed to be an enemy combatant and they are treating him as a criminal they have to ride his miranda rights. there are a lot of people think, treat this guy as an enemy combatant. ask him questions and they are allowed to do that as long as they don't use anything he says against him. that raises the question, do you really
he can hold him under the same laws as those in guantanamo bay. is this the administration's way to walk middle ground. chris, thanks for talking to us. tell us what you know about the idea behind this, why did the obama administration decide to take this tact. >> chris: it is a tact they took ever since the underwear bomber. it's called the public safety exception. if there is a live investigation and possibility of a continued threat to public safety, prosecutors are able to talk to a...
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by law he can't be sent to guantanamo bay, can't be tried in a military commission. there are cases where americans were deemed enemy combatants and tried to federal court. jose padilla for one. in the case of dzhokhar tsarnaev authorities have not found a link to an al-qaeda-linked group, and therefore no court in the u.s. would necessarily uphold the president as commander in chief as designating him an enemy combatant. legally this would be shaky, i'm told, by experts. even if the alleged bomber is deemed an enemy combatant, he still has a right to an attorney. he doesn't have to talk unless he wants to. there are limited means that u.s. interrogators have at their disposal. >> that 48-hour is not an absolute fixed time period. oh, by the way, even in military commissions, which have not secured any convictions really against anyone since 9/11 there's a right to counsel and there are procedures, too, all of which keep getting tested. >> enemy combatants having nothing to do with military commissions. >> the question the justice department refuses to answer is whet
by law he can't be sent to guantanamo bay, can't be tried in a military commission. there are cases where americans were deemed enemy combatants and tried to federal court. jose padilla for one. in the case of dzhokhar tsarnaev authorities have not found a link to an al-qaeda-linked group, and therefore no court in the u.s. would necessarily uphold the president as commander in chief as designating him an enemy combatant. legally this would be shaky, i'm told, by experts. even if the alleged...
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she has family there. >> son-in-law. >> she also has a brother-in-law who ran in the boston marathon and shot this picture just after the second bomb exploded monday. he called his brother here in the bay area thursday, after boston authorities released grainy images of the two suspects. >> he said, help me blow it up. and they contacted the fbi and the fbi said -- it's in the "the new york times" said it was the best picture of the suspect. >> this this first clear picture of suggest number two, dzhokar-tsarnaev. her brother-in-law, david green, posted the picture on affection where more than 12,000 people shared it. >> my god, actually think i hit the lottery, i took that one picture that could have been helpful. so the greatest win i could have ever had right there. to have helped. >> the picture is an example of how big a role social media played in this event. authorities were flooded with tips about the two suspects when images were shared and when the two brothers went on their rampage trying to escape. lots of people followed the story on twitter. >> for those of us who have
she has family there. >> son-in-law. >> she also has a brother-in-law who ran in the boston marathon and shot this picture just after the second bomb exploded monday. he called his brother here in the bay area thursday, after boston authorities released grainy images of the two suspects. >> he said, help me blow it up. and they contacted the fbi and the fbi said -- it's in the "the new york times" said it was the best picture of the suspect. >> this this first...
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. >>> also ahead, why extra law enforcement in the city of oakland is coming to an end. it is 7:30 on sunday, april 21 april 21st. thanks for joining us. i'm anne makovec. >> and i'm phil matier. we have a lot of news to talk about in the first hour. and first up boston, how prepared is fran and the bay area. we have a lot of events, what are we going to do about it. >> and i spoke with fema about that yesterday, they say the bay area is one of the most prepared areas in the world, still not enough depending on the level of the tragedy. we are also going to be talking about immigration and its effects potentially on the silicon valley. a new bill in congress. >>> what's high-tech at stake when it comes to visas and such. what's it mean to the local job market. meanwhile in boston we have a high level interrogation team. >> trying to talk to the one man alive behind the boston marathons. >> as susan mcginnis tells us that suspect is too seriously injured to speak. >> reporter: law enforcement officers remain staked out this morning at the boston hospital dzhokhar tsarnaev
. >>> also ahead, why extra law enforcement in the city of oakland is coming to an end. it is 7:30 on sunday, april 21 april 21st. thanks for joining us. i'm anne makovec. >> and i'm phil matier. we have a lot of news to talk about in the first hour. and first up boston, how prepared is fran and the bay area. we have a lot of events, what are we going to do about it. >> and i spoke with fema about that yesterday, they say the bay area is one of the most prepared areas in...
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. >> even though they were on opposite sides of the law, they still had a decades old relationship. >> i knew luke for 30 years, and i loved him. he was a good guy. >> any time he would open his mouth and tell a story, i made sure i had time to listen to him. >> we spent many, many hours playing pinochle, watching baseball games, and i would come in from work and be tired and i'd feel like making something to eat and here would come luke and he he'd say, you got some bread? he'd have some gravy made. he could make some gravy. >> he would sit and talk with me hours on hours. >> he always tried to keep me out of trouble, you know, keep it on the straight and narrow. >> he meant an awful lot to me. >> lucas, i'm going to miss you. >> on the other end of the spectrum, our stay at indiana state also included a wedding. >> this is my girlfriend, jodie. >> when we met inmate ronnie ty, serving 11 years for burglary, he was looking forward to make ag lifetime commitment to jody. >> tell me about the engagement. how did he ask you? >> he didn't ask me. i asked him. he told me that, one day he
. >> even though they were on opposite sides of the law, they still had a decades old relationship. >> i knew luke for 30 years, and i loved him. he was a good guy. >> any time he would open his mouth and tell a story, i made sure i had time to listen to him. >> we spent many, many hours playing pinochle, watching baseball games, and i would come in from work and be tired and i'd feel like making something to eat and here would come luke and he he'd say, you got some...
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>> by law he can't be tried on a military commission. they were cases where he was tried military court. but in a case, they have not found a link to al-qaeda linked group overseas. therefore, no court would necessarily uphold the president as commander in chief designating him as an enemy combatant. legally they would be on shaky ground and if he is deemed an enemy combatant he still has a right to an attorney. he doesn't have to talk unless he wants to and there will are limited means that interrogators have to do so. >> the 48-hour is not a fixed time period. even in military commissions that have not secured any cone vix against anyone since 9/11. there is a right to counsel and there are procedures, too, all of which keep getting tested. >> it has nothing to do with military commissions. >> the question the justice department refuses to answer is whether the clock started ticking in terms of the 48-hour rule after he was taken into custody on friday night. >> gregg: he is not in condition to be interrogated yet. that may soon change
>> by law he can't be tried on a military commission. they were cases where he was tried military court. but in a case, they have not found a link to al-qaeda linked group overseas. therefore, no court would necessarily uphold the president as commander in chief designating him as an enemy combatant. legally they would be on shaky ground and if he is deemed an enemy combatant he still has a right to an attorney. he doesn't have to talk unless he wants to and there will are limited means...
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what are law enforcement officials saying right now? >> the fbi was look into the older brother just two years ago. they received information from a foreign government that perhaps the older brother, tamerlan, had become radicalized and he was following radical islam. fbi checked phone records, they interviewed him, but they couldn't find any information to suggest he was a threat. pretty remarkable, carolyn. >> it is. have a good day. >> you too. >> a new folk hero has emerged out of boston's horrible week. his name is dave hannaberry. he is the guy who found the suspect in his boat in his backyard. the internet is all abuzz to send him a giant thank you gift. here's abc news reporter gio. >> it's the now famous little boat that kept a big secret. the unlikely hideout for america's most wanted man. and this is the boat's owner. david hannaberry, a man now called the hero for finding the suspected marathon are bomber and calling 911. >>water town's chief of police was at the scene. >> what happened when your officers arrived? >> there w
what are law enforcement officials saying right now? >> the fbi was look into the older brother just two years ago. they received information from a foreign government that perhaps the older brother, tamerlan, had become radicalized and he was following radical islam. fbi checked phone records, they interviewed him, but they couldn't find any information to suggest he was a threat. pretty remarkable, carolyn. >> it is. have a good day. >> you too. >> a new folk hero has...
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she has family there. >> son-in-law. >> she also has a brother-in-law who ran in the boston marathon and shot this picture just after the second bomb exploded monday. he called his brother here in the bay area thursday, after boston authorities released grainy images of the two suspects. >> he said, help me blow it up. and they contacted the fbi and the fbi said -- it's in the "the new york times" said it was the best picture of the suspect. >> this this first clear picture of suggest number two, dzhokar-tsarnaev. her brother-in-law, david green, posted the picture on affection where more than 12,000 people shared it. >> my god, actually think i hit the lottery, i took that one picture that could have been helpful. so the greatest win i could have ever had right there. to have helped. >> the picture is an example of how big a role social media played in this event. authorities were flooded with tips about the two suspects when images were shared and when the two brothers went on their rampage trying to escape. lots of people followed the story on twitter. >> for those of us who have
she has family there. >> son-in-law. >> she also has a brother-in-law who ran in the boston marathon and shot this picture just after the second bomb exploded monday. he called his brother here in the bay area thursday, after boston authorities released grainy images of the two suspects. >> he said, help me blow it up. and they contacted the fbi and the fbi said -- it's in the "the new york times" said it was the best picture of the suspect. >> this this first...
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and that's what law enforcement authorities are telling us, wolf. >> and these are federal charges, joe, so the attorney general, eric holder, he makes this decision, specific charges, when they're filed. it goes to the attorney general, right? >> well, it certainly is likely to go to the attorney general because of the attention this case has gotten. also, any decision as to whether to charge the defendant with a crime that is punishable by death is certainly something the attorney general of the united states would weigh in on. and that's what we're talking about, at least the potential of, for right now, wolf. >> all right, joe, we'll keep in close touch with you. i know you're working your sources at the justice department and the fbi. as soon as you get word, you'll let us know. we'll go into breaking news on that front. joe johns reporting from washington. meanwhile, the defense secretary chuck hagel spoke about the bombing investigation today. he said so far he has not seen any intelligence directly linking the surviving suspect and his older brother, the 26-year-old tamerlan tsa
and that's what law enforcement authorities are telling us, wolf. >> and these are federal charges, joe, so the attorney general, eric holder, he makes this decision, specific charges, when they're filed. it goes to the attorney general, right? >> well, it certainly is likely to go to the attorney general because of the attention this case has gotten. also, any decision as to whether to charge the defendant with a crime that is punishable by death is certainly something the attorney...
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so we need a law several levels of help to come and help. >> reporter: those seriously injured have been air-lifted to the provincial capital. the military has distributed tons of food, medicines and hundreds of tents - but the earthquake has left thousands homeless. >> residents are huddling outdoors in a town near the epicenter of a powerful earthquake that struck the steep hills of china's southwestern sichuan province. saturday morning's earthquake injured more than 6,700 people and left at least 160 people dead. and more are feared dead. the six-point-six quake triggered landslides and disrupted phone and power connections. one village was also hit hard, with authorities saying nearly all the buildings there had been destroyed in a the minute- long shaking by the quake. the earthquake administration said there had been at least 712 aftershocks, including two of magnitude-5.0 or higher. >> officials say that the area impacted by the fertilizer plant explosion in west texas is safe. city council member steve vanek says that the first wave of residents should be allowed to move back in
so we need a law several levels of help to come and help. >> reporter: those seriously injured have been air-lifted to the provincial capital. the military has distributed tons of food, medicines and hundreds of tents - but the earthquake has left thousands homeless. >> residents are huddling outdoors in a town near the epicenter of a powerful earthquake that struck the steep hills of china's southwestern sichuan province. saturday morning's earthquake injured more than 6,700 people...
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meantime, law enforcement is focused on suspect number two, here at beth israel hospital. this morning, police and federal agents are anxiously waiting to question the man who sparked nearly a week-long man hunt. that ended in a spray of bullets. overnight this new video was released showing that final tense showdown, stun grenades exploding as police move in to capture dzhokhar tsarnaev. he's in serious but stable condition at boston's beth israel hospital. his injuries, preventing him from speaking. >> i think i and all of the law enforcement professionals are hoping, for a host of reasons, that the suspect survives. because we have a million questions. >> reporter: questions like, was there anybody else involved? in his and his brother's alleged attack of the boston marathon monday. and was that their only target? dzhokhar tsarnaev he likely face federal and state charges in connection with the marathon bombing. he is also the main suspect in the fatal shooting of an m.i.t. campus police officer early friday as well as the carjacking. all of which happened just hours be
meantime, law enforcement is focused on suspect number two, here at beth israel hospital. this morning, police and federal agents are anxiously waiting to question the man who sparked nearly a week-long man hunt. that ended in a spray of bullets. overnight this new video was released showing that final tense showdown, stun grenades exploding as police move in to capture dzhokhar tsarnaev. he's in serious but stable condition at boston's beth israel hospital. his injuries, preventing him from...
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what are law enforcement officials saying? >> well, carolyn, tamerlan was on the fbi's radar two years ago. apparently a foreign government, we think it's probably russia, a foreign government reached out to the fbi asking for information, saying they were concerned that he had become a follower of radical islam. the fbi checked it out, and they didn't find him to be a threat. pretty remarkable. >>> a lot of questions going to be asked about that, though. thank you very much. have a good morning. >> thank you. >> a new folk hero has emerged out of boston's terrible week. his name is dave. he is the guy who found the suspect in his boat in his backyard. the internet is all abuzz to send him a giant thank you gift. here's abc news reporter gio. >> it's the now famous little boat that kept a big secret. unlikely hideout for america's most wanted man. and this is the boat's owner. david hannaberry, a man now called the hero for finding the suspected marathon are bomber and calling 911. >> they were at the scene. >> what happened w
what are law enforcement officials saying? >> well, carolyn, tamerlan was on the fbi's radar two years ago. apparently a foreign government, we think it's probably russia, a foreign government reached out to the fbi asking for information, saying they were concerned that he had become a follower of radical islam. the fbi checked it out, and they didn't find him to be a threat. pretty remarkable. >>> a lot of questions going to be asked about that, though. thank you very much....
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but it's very murky, with regard to the case law. the longest time that a case has ruled in this is 50 minutes from the time of the arrest, for purposes of questioning someone. he can't speak. they are going to say he can't speak yet, which is why we haven't started the 48-hour period. the goal is to get as much information as possible, i don't think they need what he says for his trial. they need it for intelligence -- >> jamie: evidence. >> one of the limits of the public safety exception is that they can't ask questions that are not related to the imminent danger. >> jamie: they have limited themselves with this route. can they still mirandize him? >> they can. >> jamie: then what? >> then, obviously, he has right to invoke if he wants an attorney or if he wants to remain silent that. hasn't happened yet. >> jamie: i would never second-guess law enforcement. we don't know if he was in a condition to ask any question, bob, would there have been a down side to mirandize him at that point? >> no. what's the worse he says, i don't wan
but it's very murky, with regard to the case law. the longest time that a case has ruled in this is 50 minutes from the time of the arrest, for purposes of questioning someone. he can't speak. they are going to say he can't speak yet, which is why we haven't started the 48-hour period. the goal is to get as much information as possible, i don't think they need what he says for his trial. they need it for intelligence -- >> jamie: evidence. >> one of the limits of the public safety...
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what are law enforcement officials saying about it? >> yeah, about two years ago the fbi was investigating tamerlan. they had a tip from an overseas government that he had been radicalized and he had become a follower of radical islam. so they opened an investigation. they asked him questions. they checked phone records, but they discovered that it didn't appear that he was a threat. pretty remarkable. >> all right. tamon, thank you very much for joining us this morning live from boston. abc's this week with george stephanopoulos had a special edition this morning focusing on the boston bombings. surviving suspect, dzhokhar darn, is not capable of talking to investigators because of wounds to his neck and throat. as to why they plan to question him without first reading his miranda rights, here's what sources tell abc news senior justice correspondent, mr. thomas. >> taking an extraordinary step because there could be an imminent threat out there. they said there's deep, deep concern about the amount of ammunition, guns and work being
what are law enforcement officials saying about it? >> yeah, about two years ago the fbi was investigating tamerlan. they had a tip from an overseas government that he had been radicalized and he had become a follower of radical islam. so they opened an investigation. they asked him questions. they checked phone records, but they discovered that it didn't appear that he was a threat. pretty remarkable. >> all right. tamon, thank you very much for joining us this morning live from...
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and i think it's fair to say the law isn't completely clear on this. let's us be clear on what we're talking about here. we're talking about the miranda warning. you have a right to remain silent. anything you say can be used against you. you have the right to a lawyer, all that stuff. what the united states government has decided to do is invoke an exception to that rule. which says that when there is a danger to public safety and you need to get answers quickly, you can get the answers without the miranda rights and still use that information in court. so when does the clock tick on that period of the public safety exception? the moment you make an arrest, the moment you begin an interrogation, what? i mean, i think the justice department will take the position that it begins the moment they begin talking to him. but i suppose his lawyers can certainly say that the time had elapsed so much since his arrest that it's hard to assert that exception. my guess is that there's no clear rule here in the federal government. this is kind of a legal rule that'
and i think it's fair to say the law isn't completely clear on this. let's us be clear on what we're talking about here. we're talking about the miranda warning. you have a right to remain silent. anything you say can be used against you. you have the right to a lawyer, all that stuff. what the united states government has decided to do is invoke an exception to that rule. which says that when there is a danger to public safety and you need to get answers quickly, you can get the answers...
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members of law enforcement, first responders and marathon participants were also honored. david ortiz had a passionate rally cry. >> it doesn't say red sox, it says boston... we want to thank you mayor menino, governor patrick, the whole police department for the great job that they did this past week. [cheers and applause] >> shannon: the sox won 4-3 and to make up for a cancelled game because of the manhunt, they have a double header today. the dprks bi arrested an 18-year-old at chicago's o'hare airport because he was about to join a group in syria. he is an american citizen, charged with attempting to provide support to a foreign terrorist organization. after he was caught exchanging emails with someone, the government says was posing as an al qaeda recruiter. the arrest was mada the suspect boarded a flight to turkey. >> i feel sorry for the people who lost everything. my hearts go out to the people who lost everything. >> shannon: after days of waiting, residents of west, texas, are lur returning home to see what remains of their houses. investigators are trying to d
members of law enforcement, first responders and marathon participants were also honored. david ortiz had a passionate rally cry. >> it doesn't say red sox, it says boston... we want to thank you mayor menino, governor patrick, the whole police department for the great job that they did this past week. [cheers and applause] >> shannon: the sox won 4-3 and to make up for a cancelled game because of the manhunt, they have a double header today. the dprks bi arrested an 18-year-old at...
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many americans thinking it's already the law. what is the disconnect in our democracy that allows this? >> it's not even the will. let's remember, it's the safety of the american public. i mean, we can demonstrate how this will save lives. right now n now on arms list.com, there's 73,000 guns available for sale. 94% of them are under this geist of private sales so they don't require background checks. every day it goes on, lives hang in the balance. it really is just that. it's not any deeper. there's a pure disconnect between what the american public wants. there are things to take heart in and inspiration from. several months ago, there would have been a filibuster on this. but these guys knew when the newtown families visited, when americans started calling their congress people, they knew that they were being watched and they knew they at least had to have the conversation. there was a bipartisan agreement with two a-rated nra senators. six voted in favor of this. the original brady bill pertaining to 60% of gun sales, it too
many americans thinking it's already the law. what is the disconnect in our democracy that allows this? >> it's not even the will. let's remember, it's the safety of the american public. i mean, we can demonstrate how this will save lives. right now n now on arms list.com, there's 73,000 guns available for sale. 94% of them are under this geist of private sales so they don't require background checks. every day it goes on, lives hang in the balance. it really is just that. it's not any...
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during emotional pregame ceremony the red sox honored all those effected by monday's tragedy and the law enforcement who helped capture the two suspects. at the end of the ceremony david ortiz took the mic to personally thank everyone involved and then used some strong words to deliver this message. >> this is our [ bleep ] city. and nobody going to dictate our freedom. stay strong. thank you. >> big papi. you may notice something different about his uniform. instead of the normal home jerseys with red sox on the front, the team wore special uniforms with boston across the chest. red sox fans didn't get much to cheer about until -- a three-run home run right here into the red sox bullpen finally got a chance to go crazy. red sox take the lead and go onto get the win 4-3. meanwhile at the garden the bruins were back on the ice yesterday afternoon playing their game with the penguins that had been postponed on friday. during warmups the bruins wore state police, boston p.d. and watertown p.d. hats. for the game both teams wore special patches on their jerseys. they will be auctioned off to
during emotional pregame ceremony the red sox honored all those effected by monday's tragedy and the law enforcement who helped capture the two suspects. at the end of the ceremony david ortiz took the mic to personally thank everyone involved and then used some strong words to deliver this message. >> this is our [ bleep ] city. and nobody going to dictate our freedom. stay strong. thank you. >> big papi. you may notice something different about his uniform. instead of the normal...
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now with medical marijuana laws. so we brought together these three great authors who have really delved deeply into the culture and science and economics of marijuana. and we're going to talk about how this sea change might play out as we move towards, presumably move towards legalization and how they think it should play out. so, first, i do need to read some announcements. please silence all cell phones. there's a signing area for their books following the session. book signing for this panel is located at signing area one. personal recordings of this session is is allowed, and -- is not allowed, and mark wanted me to announce at 4:20 there'll be a special gift you should your seats -- under your seats. [laughter] >> just inhale deeply at 4:20. i'll give you a sign. >> okay. in the middle we have beau kilmer, co-director of the rand drug policy research center who has written extensively on marijuana policy. most recently, he co-authored marijuana legalization, what everyone needs to know, which was published by o
now with medical marijuana laws. so we brought together these three great authors who have really delved deeply into the culture and science and economics of marijuana. and we're going to talk about how this sea change might play out as we move towards, presumably move towards legalization and how they think it should play out. so, first, i do need to read some announcements. please silence all cell phones. there's a signing area for their books following the session. book signing for this...
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laws in washington state. >> there was a lot of people running. lots of people had different ideas of what was happening. some people yelling gun shots. >> police are asking festival goers for their pictures and video as they search for the person responsible. they do not have a motive for that shooting. >>> closer to home, there's one less law enfor me to say agency paroling oakland streets. oakland sheriff deputies stopped assisting last night. the relationship between the county and city soured after a deputy was shot in the foot while making a traffic stop last month in oakland. the two sides disagreed over who should pay future compensation cases. >> it's a risky job, and they need to be medically covered for events just like this. >> the deputies targeted high crime areas helping police handle drunk driving, traffic stops, and prostitution. oakland says the chp will help those with those paroles. >>> asking for the public's opinion on driverless cars. google has been testing the cars for several years and at some point, those cars are expect
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they are law abiding. they go through a background check when they purchase their firearm and want everybody else to go through a background check. to speculate that because a state like wisconsin, you know, a tradition of gun ownership, those are the very people that understand the responsibility and this t lethality of a firearm and don't want the criminals. those persons dangerously mentally ill giving them a bad name. i would speculate that, you know, we are going to see a different sort of gun owner emerge. there is -- serious but small percentage of gun owners who are radical and -- you know, just fire, you know, and threaten and -- let their voices be heard. i suggest that they are a minority of gun owners. >> the biggest category we have to get to is the rank and files, biggest category we have. we are going through that after this. >>> life is full of surprises except when it isn't. that brings us to the anti-background senators that followed the script perfectly. they are senators that don't alwa
they are law abiding. they go through a background check when they purchase their firearm and want everybody else to go through a background check. to speculate that because a state like wisconsin, you know, a tradition of gun ownership, those are the very people that understand the responsibility and this t lethality of a firearm and don't want the criminals. those persons dangerously mentally ill giving them a bad name. i would speculate that, you know, we are going to see a different sort of...